APF 2K8 reel editor now on XBLM, why?
by Richard Mitchell 
{ Jul 20th 2007 at 5:30PM }
An interesting item has popped up on Xbox Live Marketplace for All Pro Football 2K8. The item is a called the "reel editor." This item, as its name implies, allows players to create and edit replays in order to create personal highlight reels. Sounds pretty cool, right? We actually think it's a great idea. We have one question, though: why is this on Xbox Live Marketplace? Shouldn't this be an included feature in the game? Considering the game has only been out for a few days, we find it hard to believe this reel editor couldn't have made it into the retail disc. What's more, we're expected to pay 400 points for it? Sounds like unnecessary roughness to us.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
MDB @ Jul 20th 2007 5:43PM
Introducing it ona game like this is a waste. If they really wanted to make money on this kind of feature, they'd sell it for the likes of Madden and Halo. Let's hope they don't though
THA1icarus @ Jul 20th 2007 6:00PM
Is this the deal sell a 80% finished game then sell the 20% later on marketplace. And APF isn't graphically impressive so how cares for a overpriced replay editor. can you even send the replay to anyone? Ore get the content on your pc so you could put it on youtube..
Is this part of 2k's restructuring there management hoping this will make 2k profitable.
Maximus @ Jul 20th 2007 6:02PM
This is exactly what we feared. Developers charging extra for features that should be standard in games. This crap alone will keep me from buying All Pro.
Brian @ Jul 20th 2007 6:16PM
I think its pretty sweet, its only 5 bucks and there could have been development on it just after they started pressing disc.
It would be nice for free but, hey if you like the game its 5$.
x silence x @ Jul 20th 2007 6:12PM
EA includes it with the game!
John @ Jul 20th 2007 6:27PM
It's the same thing with NBA 2k7...
ccc @ Jul 20th 2007 6:39PM
Well, a couple factors here I am not sure about.
A) How much is this game selling for new? Is it full price?
If not, 5 bucks aint shit to pay for this feature. plus if U waited,Id bet itll become free somewhere during the prime of the NFL season.
B) Is this a featue that has been in a Madden game? Or is this yet another original idea from 2k sports thats gonna get implemented into all future EA products?
I have no plans on getting this game, but for those of U that play this kind of game,
those are key factors in this that should be weighed in before deciding.
Mark @ Jul 20th 2007 6:50PM
"sell a 80% finished game then sell the 20% later on marketplace."
yeah, gamers need to collectively draw a line somewhere. If people buy those games and the extra content then the publishers are encouraged to sell 70% of a game and sell 30% on the marketplace. They'll keep moving the line an inch with each new game until we're willing to buy a shell of what used to be a game and then pay extra for more content. They already are hitting us with $10 extra for 360 games. Was that not enough?
Joking around with my friend once I came up with a game that will be the pinnacle of this trend called "The Room" and for $60 you get a room that has no furnishings and you can't leave. It's just and empty room. On the day the game is released, you can buy some chairs and a bed for $0.50 each on the marketplace. For $5, you can buy the hallway that lets you leave your room and start on your adventure of exploring the world. Eventually, for $100+ you will be able to finish the same game that would have been $50 two years ago.
Miz3ry @ Jul 20th 2007 7:20PM
Same thing was done for NBA 2K7 and College Hoops 2K7. Guess 2K has abandoned the "value" scheme. Remember when 2K sports games were $19.99 for last-gen consoles? I bought and traded in this game the SAME DAY, a first for me.
xImmortal007x @ Jul 20th 2007 7:37PM
And the fact that it's only a 108kb download, pretty much tells you it was already on the disc, and it only, "unlocks" the feature.
Pretty horrible for a game touting "FOOTBALL RESURRECTED" as it's tagline.
midnight74 @ Jul 20th 2007 8:12PM
All you have to do is look about 3 stories down & see how much microsoft "says" they lost last year & it explains it all.
Tony @ Jul 20th 2007 10:49PM
Somehow I doubt the developer of this game decided to put this up as pay-for DLC just to help MS out.
Kenobi @ Jul 20th 2007 10:52PM
This irks me.
I bought the game earlier in the week (have yet to open), a HUGE fan of the 2K football series back to the Dreamcast days. I also like the idea of competition giving EA a run for the money.
I've read several lukewarm reviews bought I thought, heck, I'll support them and hope they continue to improve.
This just plain pisses me off - returning tomorrow morning for a full refund.
Fezmid @ Jul 21st 2007 12:20AM
"This just plain pisses me off - returning tomorrow morning for a full refund."
I guess I don't understand why this pisses people off. The game never said it came with this feature... Personally, I don't care about the feature. Do people really want to throw the baby out with the bathwater? Someone is finally making an innovative football game to compete against Madden (which pretty much sucks every year - the only years they make decent improvements are years in which there's competition), and because you have to pay extra for a "highlight saving machine," people are going to ditch it? Please. The gameplay is very good, I don't understand why people are complaining about the graphics as they look great as well (not GoW great, but still very very good).
To each their own I guess.
GregA @ Jul 21st 2007 3:10AM
#14
I don't play football games, so maybe I can offer a objected (if twisted and weird) opinion on the matter.
I think when they say "download extra content" it should be "extra". Not horse armor so they can get $2 from us later on. I mean $2??? Really is that all you think im good for? The game should have the horse armor included. Instead, sell us a whole new Island that mysteriously appears... Or a deep dungeon that we never noticed before.
In this game, if the game came with a basic reel editor, then they sold you a deluxe reel editor(with features like share with friends, email it somewhere, the X is for x-tra baby), I can see that. But basic functionality should be included in the game. Extra should be something that some crazed fanatic is willing to pay for, something more...
This is just a step away from XBL live selling a version of sonic the hedge hog with the save disabled, then enabling save when you pay em a little more.
Don't get me wrong... I am more than pleased with my xbox. The best gameing system ever devised as far as I am concerned. But the sorts of things I am seeing are starting to make me worried that it may have run its course...
Monster 2 of 2 @ Jul 21st 2007 5:17AM
Monster 2 of 2 here from Achieve360Points.com. I can tell you now that any "extra content" download that is 108.00 KB big is an unlock key. All of the downloads for the additional Dead Rising outfits are unlock keys, meaning the content is already on the game disc. You are just buying the right to access it!
Outinthedark @ Jul 21st 2007 5:26AM
To be honest with you saw this up on MN blog and thought wtf...
Seriously someone just stated it was like a mb in size...it's "unlocking" the feature...I highly doubt the game did not ship with this feature already on the disk...makes me hate M$ even more but oh well...enjoy the game don't buy some stupid editor quit crying about it and be all pouty and return the game because of some $5 extra you wouldn't have used anyways...seriously we all know what M$ does just get over it and move on...yea we shouldn't have to live with it and just move on but geeze they gotta make their money somewhere...they did just extend everyone's console an additional 2 years so be freakin happy...! Enjoy the games...support the developers [they gotta play by M$ rules]...don't support the bs...[I still have yet to buy any of the Guitar Hero content because of it's price tag...]
Outinthedark @ Jul 21st 2007 5:29AM
I gotta disagree with your example there monster because textures for that game are easily 512x512 if not smaller...that could be easily a MB in size...
Outinthedark @ Jul 21st 2007 5:32AM
if not smaller...like 100-200k [meant to add that there at the end haha...got ahead of myself! Woot 3-peat..!]
xenocidic @ Jul 21st 2007 10:03AM
Looks like 2k sports has taken a page from EA's playbook.
MrOpinion @ Jul 21st 2007 10:46AM
What the hell people? 2K did the same thing with NBA 2K7 and "there was much rejoicing" over the additional content, whether it was used by them or not. Now that Mitchell has finally caught up to the news and is posting more information without doing any research, everyone is complaining. Amazing.
nojok3 @ Jul 21st 2007 1:37PM
The worst part is, EA Sports does the exact same thing.
Referring to #12, it wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft was up to this. They tried forcing RS: Vegas to have Premium content, but the devs wanted to give it out for free.
ANt @ Jul 21st 2007 4:13PM
I rented this game last night, and all I can say is that they have NERVE!!
This game absolutely sucks, in all facets.
The gameplay is slow, the graphics suck (although the stadiums look ok at times, the field looks horrible and the players do too)
The game feels old in every way, like Dreamcast old.....
And to top it off they put O.J. in the game, fuck that murderer piece of shit!!!
ssantos11 @ Jul 21st 2007 6:20PM
They keep doing this because the community keeps letting them get away with it. Every time we get up in arms over this kind of crap we go to find that 200,000 people paid for the content. Gamers are to blame for this!! It's been said but I refuse to pay for unlock codes like this. But then again Activision is making huge money on GH 2 becuase even at 5.00 for 3 songs people by the 10s of thousands buy it.
Gamers need to stop and really check if content is truly worth the price. Why are we all like lemmings with wide open pockets?!
Imadogg99 @ Jul 21st 2007 6:53PM
Who here actually cares about the reel editor? NBA and College Hoops 2K7 did this like someone said, not new news. I just don't buy them... and highlight reels are definitely not a reason to stop playing the game
Squeak212 @ Jul 21st 2007 9:03PM
I say this as a die hard 2K fan who's been waiting for a new football game from these guys ever since 2K5, but charging for the Reel Editor is kind of a low blow. Considering there's no franchise mode, no Crib, and other things missing that could give the game more depth over your typical football game, and that the bulk of the commentary is lifted from 2K5 (which was, in turn, mostly lifted from 2K4), it seems like this is something they could have included to make up for the shortcomings of the game. I'm not spending 60 bucks to hear Dan and Peter say the same things they were saying 4 years ago, and then pay another 5 for a replay editor.
Fezmid @ Jul 22nd 2007 9:48AM
@23:
"This game absolutely sucks, in all facets."
No, this game is VERY good.
"The gameplay is slow,"
If you think the speed is too slow, then change it in the options section. Personally, I think it's good.
"the graphics suck (although the stadiums look ok at times, the field looks horrible and the players do too)"
The graphics look excellent (at least on an HDTV, don't know about SD). I can even see the stiching on the jerseys! My wife saw me playing yesterday adn said, "It's just like watching the TV."
"And to top it off they put O.J. in the game, fuck that murderer piece of shit!!!"
See, in this country, if a jury doesn't convict you, you're not guilty. (doesn't mean you're innocent, but you're not guilty). Besides, look at it this way - the money he gets from the game will (eventually?) go to the Goldman family due to the lawsuit.
Rodec @ Jul 23rd 2007 1:02PM
PARTY FOUL!!!
Scott Krueger @ Jul 23rd 2007 2:56PM
Maybe if they included this Feature in the Game they wouldn't be behind EA.
This game scored about an 8.0 pretty much everywhere.
You don't have the NFL License so you have to go the Extra Mile. Not the Extra Mile when it comes to Charging customers.
tyler @ Nov 10th 2007 10:13PM
They Stole it from ncaa 08