
Sony CEO Howard Stringer is happy go perky when it comes to talking about the future of the PS3. Oh how bright the future is. Talking with
Reuters, Stringer says that the "PS3 has now gone past XBox on the Christmas market" and that it is "moving into its own". Comparable to the growth of a tween becoming a teenager or something like that. Stringer then happily proclaims that the "PS3 is out of the woods and beginning to hold its own" when it comes to its competition with the 360. And we just hope that he's talking about Japanese sales numbers, because if he's referencing to
North American sales then we'll have to be the bearer of bad news and say that the woods is much deeper and scarier than he thinks. But we'll let Stringer live in his fantasy world for as long as he wants, because he
is a CEO. We'll just keep mum and let the numbers speak.
[Via
Joystiq]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
nizzy1115 @ Jan 28th 2008 2:19PM
Those Sony people sure know how to joke. They are such kidders.
xenocidic @ Jan 28th 2008 4:15PM
he's talking about the PS3 finally passing the original Xbox in sales figures.
Dadidito @ Jan 28th 2008 2:20PM
So he's the one that runs the SDF site... I knew it!!!!
Pulse-Wave @ Jan 28th 2008 2:21PM
Why was this flame bait even published? The article also neglects to mention Europe. At all.
emaxximus @ Jan 28th 2008 5:18PM
I agree.That picture makes me laugh though.
ps3 fanboy(spy) @ Feb 8th 2008 10:33PM
no one cares about europe...ps3 pwns 360+wii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Michael Paul @ Jan 28th 2008 2:21PM
I am growing less and less likely to buy a PS3 every day. I'm now hoping for Blu-Ray 2.0 to show up in a $300 dual-format player real soon, so I can but that and claim I have no room for another game system...
Deck @ Jan 28th 2008 2:22PM
Maybe he needs to come out of the woods himself....
Then again it is winter.. he's probably hibernating...
LesbianHam @ Jan 28th 2008 3:45PM
'Woods'?
Try Closet.
Mobilehavoc @ Jan 28th 2008 2:37PM
I've had an Xbox 360 since launch and love it to say the least. However, I picked up a PS3 this past weekend to balance things out. I already have an HDDVD player but figured I'd get a Blu-Ray player out of the PS3 and maybe a few PS3 exclusive titles. Been playing Uncharted:Drake's Fortune and it's pretty damm good, hopefully other PS3 exclusives will be just as good. When I'm not playing PS3 I just let it do Folding@Home and help cure diseases...
No one says you can't have both. Each has its advantages and disadvantages...I know now because I own both.
FDread @ Jan 28th 2008 11:32PM
I'm right there with you. I LOVE my (se)Xbox360! But I picked up a PS3 (80GB) about two weeks ago and I'm loving Uncharted and MotorStorm. Nothing else really on the PS3 that I want to play. The multi-platform games will be bought for the 360, and since I don't have an HD-DVD player, I guess I'm on the Blu-Ray side of the format war.
It's nice to have all the now-gen systems, as the exclusives aren't exclusive, and the multi-platform games give me the choice of comparing features. GTA IV is the perfect example: If I love the game, I want more...which system is going to have more?
RSHammerhand @ Jan 31st 2008 6:32AM
heavenly sword is pretty good; (and that chick is hot)
Eddie @ Jan 28th 2008 2:39PM
lol
Wait, he was serious? What th-
Chester @ Jan 28th 2008 2:46PM
Sony is delusional!
Tony @ Jan 28th 2008 2:58PM
At this stage I just don't even care what does marginally better. As long as the 360 keeps getting decent games I can just remain oblivious to this sort of stuff because I find it just detracts from my enjoyment of the games themselves. Considering 360 games seem to sell pretty well on average, it doesn't seem like I have too much to worry about yet... there's little reason for any third party I care about to start ignoring the system.
Modeps @ Jan 28th 2008 3:00PM
Alright Fanboy, this is straight up bullshit news. How about you make sure you check your facts or even read the fucking article. They passed the 360 in EU sales. Your reporting abilities have been really shitty lately... and I'm a 360 fanboy.
Knight Marquise @ Jan 28th 2008 3:08PM
Modeps,
The last chart I seen still showed the 360 with a larger install base in Europe over the PS3. Perhaps you could point me to a source that shows the PS3 with a larger base in Europe. I know the PS3 is getting creamed in the States, and likewise, the 360 is getting creamed in Japan.
TORO @ Jan 28th 2008 3:40PM
I hope they write another "shitty" article and maybe you'll stop posting here ;)
Leo @ Jan 29th 2008 1:36PM
@Knight
Maybe the 360 has a larger *install base* in Europe because it was released, oh, I dunno, a year and a half earlier? PS3 is beating 360 in sales in Europe and obviously in Japan. I think it's beating 360 worldwide now, too. Just saying...
Knight Marquise @ Jan 29th 2008 3:27PM
@ Leo...
My question was rhetorical in nature. The PS3 has a ways to go before it passes the 360 in ww install base.
And the old excuse of the 360 having a year long headstart over the PS3 no longer holds any water.
That little inconvenience didn't stop the Wii from blowing past the 360.
mattclarkie @ Jan 28th 2008 3:02PM
On the Joystiq article I got the impression he was talking about Japan and Europe, and not the US, it seems that you just want to take the Michael.
In Europe and Japan the PS3 is doing very well, I am not claiming that the 360 is failing, but between the PS3 and the 360 so many people have bought the Wii that there aren't many left to buy the PS3 and the 360, so the numbers are much closer than you would ever imagine.
I have both, and they are both great. I spend much more time on the 360 because I had it first, and it has alot of games that aren't on the PS3, and I am an Achievement Whore, so I will always choose the 360 version to get the AP, but if a game is exclusive I am more than happy to pick it up for the PS3 if it is a good game.
Edzo04 @ Jan 28th 2008 3:26PM
the ps3 was an epic FAIL. it is hilarious that sony is playing pretend domination with it
Smitty @ Jan 28th 2008 3:32PM
I'm pretty sure the PS3 isnt even close to pulling a profit yet.. Silly Sony Tricks are for kids
erx3 @ Jan 28th 2008 3:46PM
Since when was the PS3 an "epic fail"? Competition is a good thing.
refinedsugar @ Jan 28th 2008 3:30PM
Yeah, I love the 360 right, but for me, this hardcore fanboy-ish stuff grew old years ago. Can we get a middle ground? Don't hate for the sake of hating.
JHTM @ Jan 28th 2008 3:32PM
A possible explanation for the PS3 selling 'well' in europe is due to the fact that BD sales in Europe are mush higher than HD-DVD. Now coupled with the fact that the PS3 is the cheapest BD player (that i know of) AND the stats that proved PS3 owners buy more BD movies than games, i can only assume the basis of this guys comments (i.e. we're gunna sell like hotcakes blah blah blah) is the presumed notion that BD will kill HD DVD by Dec 08.
From a games point of view, the X360 is by far the biggest selling software platform there is - i mean 23% more SW was sold on the x360 v the WII and the X360 sold double the SW the PS3 did over Q4 2007. Also EA (2nd largest publisher) sold more SW on the X360 than EVERY other platform combined. Ok so now factor in 40% of each sale goes directly to MS - i think Microsoft are and WILL continue to cane the PS3 ESPECIALLY when it comes to games SW.
At the end of the day if the PS3 has a similar 2008 to that of 2007, one can foresee the "console war" dying off in favor of the X360.
PS Home - PLEASE !!!???!!!
Trekster_Gamer @ Jan 28th 2008 3:51PM
It's a shame that Sony has to result in skewing the truth... It might catch up with the 360 in the USA about the time that there is even a newer Xbox console.
Modeps @ Jan 28th 2008 4:07PM
Too bad there's no nesting replies here so I could reply specifically to users but anyways, VGChartz is the easiest way to show comparisons.
Red line. http://tinyurl.com/3xojgl
PS3 is not winning in cumulative sales (how could they be? time was against them), but won over the holiday in EU.
Knight Marquise @ Jan 28th 2008 9:10PM
Seems to me with Wii also launched late, just like the PS3, and it hasn't had a problem overtaking cumalative sales.
John Maroli @ Jan 29th 2008 4:51PM
Actually, He's talking worldwide numbers. The PS3 will overtake the 360 in Europe at the end of the year at most, 360 is unknown in Japan, PS3 will outsell 360 in the US in about 2 years, and PS3 has a larger install base in many European countries already.
Leobebes @ Jan 28th 2008 4:13PM
This whole PS3 is now movement is a lesson in delusional tactics. Sir Stringer so now that you can't corner the North American market (the bread and butter of the VG industry) you go around beating your chest about dominating in Luxembourg, Latvia, and Azerbaijan well good for you. I hear those attachment rates in those countries are second to none. We all know Japan is not straying from the PS3 it just won't happen, as that country will probably be the most racist country on earth come 2027 where people of many different ethnic backgrounds will at least have a 1% of being a leading political figure in their transplant countries.
This whole talk about the 360 in decline is the single most ridiculous statement I have ever heard. Please back it up with stats, the 360 has been selling more and more every month since its release. Besides the UK and U.S. it usually takes the world market to catch up to our trends. I guarantee a substantial price drop this year for the 360, more lost exclusives for Sony due to the most aggressive market in the world having market defying attachment rates, and more awareness of the microsoft's big green machine in secondary markets like Italy, Spain, France, and Latin America. Quit fooling yourselves Sony fans.
Also JRPG's are going to go the way of the dinosaur they only exist to sell to niche markets now. FPS titles are going to be single handily responsible in keeping the JRPG market alive. Enjoy the symbiotic relationship fanboys!
Phizzy @ Jan 28th 2008 4:15PM
America is the only relevant market. ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE IS A COMMUNIST!
Leobebes @ Jan 28th 2008 4:48PM
Say what you want but last time I checked, as ridiculous as our cultural trends have been, America is still the leader when it comes to cultural influence and market trends. Saying otherwise is complete and utter denial.
ccc @ Jan 28th 2008 4:15PM
This would be MS's own fault sony is still alive with the ps3 instead of beating it while it was down.
MS has made poor choices over and over again.
Sony's online network is free, 360 has a high failure rate, xbox originals without achievements, achievements with no meaning, very poor customer service, letting 3rd party developers put games that are actually good on that pile of crap ps3 instead of buying them out like COD4 and RB6V, letting epic get Unreal on ps3 first, DMR issues that continue to plague 360 owners including myslef, the list goes on and on. I love the 360 but you can only mess up so many times before you loose the foothold you had on the market and MS lack of a killer instinct is exactly what is allowing the ps3 to survive, before you know it it will out sell 360 all around. Thats when the pink slips will start to get handed out over at MS.
Get job and keep up the track record and see where it gets you MS.
David W. @ Jan 28th 2008 4:43PM
What on earth are you talking about!?
I agree that the xbox originals w/o achievements is kind of lame, but it's not that big of a mistake seeing as any sales they make off of that is pure profit at this point. The one time I had to talk to Microsoft customer service they were excellent. In terms of buying out exclusives, that's not always feasible. In terms of achievements, I would say they have been amazingly successful. Someone in an earlier post mentioned that if a game comes out on both systems, he'll get it on the 360 purely for the points.
SadisticHam @ Jan 28th 2008 4:41PM
Yawn. I thought sonys ego had gone, guess not.
The 360 is selling well in the UK and in America. As much as people like to think Japan is where it's at, it isn't all that important anymore.
America is where the biggest profit is at and the UK? Well as far as i know we're the biggest profit to be made in Europe, the other European country's, from what I've heard (although this is no where near a fact) aren't all that big on video games and sales are fairly poor all around compared to American/Japanese.
Point is, the 360 can survive and stay in front of Sony by doing well in the USA and UK. By the time sony catch up, it'll be time for new consoles and the Rep can spin his bullshit all he likes, it isn't going to change much.
JHTM @ Jan 28th 2008 4:54PM
for the PS3 to catch up to the X360 they have to outperform on a games front. ok so they released Drake, but that was blown out of the water by Halo 3 and bioshock. If MS can ship Alan Wake, Halo Wars, GTA 4 DLC, NG II, Splinter Cell conviction etc this year AND create MORE exclusives, the PS3 and the over rated MGS series face an upward task.
For the record XBOX Live is far better than the PSN
Efeez1986 @ Jan 28th 2008 4:55PM
God this is exactly why i don't respect any xbox journalism. I have all 3 consoles, and i must say that all of the fanboyism shown in xbox mag. and sites like this are pitiful. Leave the fanboyism to the 15 year old gamers. If you look at Playstation mag or even PS3 fanboy, you won't see any fanboy crap trying to bash 360 like you see here on this site, or xbox mag. Give me some damn 360 news minus the fanboy bullshit please.
Knight Marquise @ Jan 28th 2008 5:09PM
You're a PS3 Zealot, and that's fine, but don't come in here pretending to be "above the fanboy fray" when your posting history proves your a mouth frothing, head spinning PS3 fanbot.
My gawd, when it comes to biased reporting and spin, the only site worse then PS3 Fanboy is sdf. Go troll elsewhere, efeez.
Efeez1986 @ Jan 28th 2008 7:41PM
Jesus christ Knight Marquise, you are a perfect example of a fanboy freak. Why are you stalking me? Get a girlfriend asap you weirdo. Does Microsoft have some kind of brainwashing program in the 360's, because i haven't came across it yet on my 360. I hate you fucking diehard fanboy freaks who act like stockholders instead of gamers. You don't work for Microsoft you freak, so shut the hell up. You probably don't even have a 360 to begin with. Stop stalking me you fucking pillow biter.
Knight Marquise @ Jan 28th 2008 9:29PM
efeez...
"Jesus christ Knight Marquise, you are a perfect example of a fanboy freak."
Really? Because I call you out for what you are? It's comical how you "hate the fucking diehard fanboys" when discussing Xbox 360 fans, however, that same opinion doesn't carry over to PS3 Fanboy, or the posters there. Take your hyperbole somewhere else, you tool bag.
"Why are you stalking me?"
Stalking? LOL!!! I post on various blogs, just as you do. Don't flatter yourself.
"Get a girlfriend asap you weirdo."
What that has to do with a video game blog, I have no idea, however, I'm happily married, so I'll have to pass on the girlfriend suggestion.
"Does Microsoft have some kind of brainwashing program in the 360's, because i haven't came across it yet on my 360."
That's a rather uneducated question, and the answer equally obvious. I would assume "brainwashing" would fall under the "new format" category...so if its even possible, I'd check the Sony console for that feature first. It's likely Sony Proprietary.
"I hate you fucking diehard fanboy freaks"
You always mention that, when discussing the Xbox360, but for whatever reason, it doesn't seem to apply to PS3 Fanbots. Try to be a little more consistant with your rantings, would you?
"..who act like stockholders instead of gamers."
Actually, I'm both. To aid you in your enlightenment, those two words are not mutually exclusive. Welcome to the 21st Century.
"You don't work for Microsoft you freak,"
Well, actually, you don't know that either. Are you channelling those gurgling sounds from your lower orafice again, or perhaps you're stalking me and my daily commute to work?
Nevertheless, for those enquiring minds, who need to know: No, I don't work for Microsoft.
"so shut the hell up."
Ahh..the winning argument for every adolescent PS3 fanbot looking to increase his E-Peen size on the internet. I'll try to answer with similar terms: -10; you phail.
"You probably don't even have a 360 to begin with."
Actually I've purchased 7 for myself and family members, but only 5 actually reside in various rooms within my house. Be that as it may...was this another one of your moments of clairvoyance? If so, Miss Cleo has nothing to fear.
"Stop stalking me you fucking pillow biter."
Hmm...I'm not stalking, however you certainly do exhibit signs reminiscent of a persecution complex. Seek help. Now. If I may make a suggestion, look in the yellow pages, under "Tool Bag Self Help Programs".
Next.
Efeez1986 @ Jan 29th 2008 2:40AM
LOL wow, i haven't seen anybody lie that much in 1 post before. Your a sad man, you don't have to lie just to try to prove something to people you don't even know. I'm surprised your wife hasn't divorced you yet, since you spend all your time on the internet harassing everybody who owns a PS3.LOL I own all 3 consoles and you don't, so who's the real fanboy? You can continue on with your war against the "evil" Sony all you want, but i'm going to enjoy games on all 3 consoles unlike you. Get a life loser.
Knight Marquise @ Jan 29th 2008 9:26AM
LOL!!!
You can't deny =anything= I stated, yet you always fall back to name calling.
Brilliant!!
If anyone is curious, they can look at our profiles and see who the raving, fanbot, tool bag truly is.
Bottom line is you're a Sony Bitch, regardless of which console you do or do not own.
Now, quit trolling this forum and move on.
Efeez1986 @ Jan 29th 2008 4:21PM
LOL Knight your completely obsessed with me. Your the most extreme, pitiful, lonely fanboy i've ever seen. I hope to god that your only 15 years old, because if your a grown man acting this childish and using words like "trolling", then your a sad man. You obviously have nothing else in life to live for, that's why you get so emotional about video games. This fanboy bullshit started and won't end because of extreme, psycho idiots like you. You need to get some help, get a life buddy.
Knight Marquise @ Jan 29th 2008 8:13PM
Efeez...
The only thing I obsess about is FUD spread by single minded fanbot zealots, such as you. When I see that, I will always call it out for what it is. You have a choice. Quit spreading FUD on blogs I frequent, or be prepared to have your words thrown right back at you and deal with it.
Take a look at what you write about 360 fans, and then compare you're complaints to your own spurious comments about the PS3.
Either you're completely disingenuous, which I suspect, or you're so close to the forest, you can't see the trees.
Efeez1986 @ Jan 30th 2008 1:38AM
So Knight your basically saying it's your god given duty to strike down anybody who owns a PS3? Your saying i'm not allowed to own a 360 and a PS3? This crusade your on is weird and disturbing. You know what makes you very wrong and completely off? Go look at my 1st post under this subject, and you will clearly see i'm not saying anything about xbox fans, i was speaking about the people who run this site and write the articles. I was saying they shouldn't post flame articles like this because they always do. Get your facts straight and find another battle to fight, because your making yourself look pitiful.
Knight Marquise @ Jan 30th 2008 10:51AM
Obviously, grammar is not your only weak spot, reading comprehension is, as well.
Re-read my post. I never claimed anything of the sort, your straw man argument doesn't work here.
Initiialy, with your lack of writing skills, RC, sentence structure, not to mention choice of words, I had you pegged at very late teens or very early 20's. I can see I was off by a long shot, so let me break this down for a prepubescent mentallity; hopefully you'll be able to grasp the concept.
You're a Troll. Look the definition up.
You're a fanbot. Re-read your own comments about 360 fans and then go back and re-read your comments about the PS3. You're opinion is painfully obvious as well as biased.
I don't know if an Xbox360 molested you when you were young, but you have a vendetta against the machine and it's users if good news comes around, and you never cease to defend the PS3 nor any of its own failings.
Personally I couldn't give 2 shits what you like or dislike, I only become offended when zealot Sony Fanbots, such as yourself, come to a 360 blog and spew your hatred towards a console that more people like & own. Your brand of vitriol is welcome on PS3 Fanboy, but what in the hell makes you think it would be welcome at 360fanboy?
Nevertheless, you do have that prerogative, and I have the right to put forth my point of view; which I will always do.
Lastly, do yourself a favor and ask yourself. Why do your comments always seem to be voted down?
I would suggest that you consider the remote possibility that it is you who is appearing pitiful.
Efeez1986 @ Jan 30th 2008 1:57PM
What makes you think i hate the 360? If i hated 360 i would have never bought the console. I hope and pray that your only 15 years old, because it would be pathetic for an adult to act as childish as you do. Shane Kim and everybody else who works for Microsoft would even laugh at your ridiculous comments.
I even took a page out of your book and looked at all your older comments. You are a certified psycho freak and i hope somebody reports you. You have harassed many people on this site, and many others. You even attacked Xbox fans who hate Sony just like you, because they gave some constructive criticism about MS and the 360. I own a 360 Elite so i have a right to come to this site whether you like it or not. Stop harassing people for speaking their opinions you freak.
Knight Marquise @ Jan 30th 2008 2:55PM
What makes me think you hate the 360?
FFS man, are you bi-polar? Does the left hand not know what the right hand does. Are you truly that big of an idiot to not understand your blabbering, biased musings?
Read the shit you post, that will answer your question. You know the ones, little diddies, such as:
"I think Sony and the Playstation brand is Microsoft's worst nightmare."
"I hate how America is the only country filled with these xbox fanboy idiots."
"MS is a greedy ass company"
"Who cares about Frontlines? It looks like a generic ass shooter. I'm tired of shooters, after i get Haze and Killzone 2 i'm done with shooters."
"The american media is obviously bias against the PS3"
"Uncharted is hands down the best game of 2007"
"Killzone 2, Resistance 2 and Haze are all guaranteed to be great with no exceptions and all 3 are exclusive to PS3, so Sony wins and PS3 fans win."
"PS3 is more powerful than 360, so stop crying"
And one of my personal favorites:
"Xbox 360 can be the media's favorite, but they know and everybody else knows PS3 is the best all around console on the market."
You're a Sony Tool & a Troll, not to mention a cornicopia of anti MS vitriol and Sony Kool Aid drinker.
If you need anymore help understanding your anti MS/Pro Sony issues, seek professional help.
Efeez1986 @ Jan 30th 2008 9:59PM
LOL You said that i'm a "Sony Kool-Aid drinker". I now know for a fact that your between the ages of 12 and 16, so i'm going to lay off you. You say i hate Microsoft but i'm using Windows Vista right now, and i own a 360 Elite. You're the worst and most delusional fanboy i have ever come across since this whole fanboy shit started. Find somebody else to obsess over, because i don't want to keep going back and forth with a 15 year old.