Ask X3F: Gotta have Faith edition

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On my previous 360 I was having an issue where if I played a game for more than about 20 minutes, my console would overheat and get a disk read error. I've since replaced the console, but recently, playing Saints Row 2, the game will freeze after about a half hour of play, and when I feel the back of the console, it is rather hot. This leads me to several questions:
1) Is this a problem with Saints Row 2 specifically that others have been having? If so, is there a patch on the way? 2) Is there a good way to keep my 360 cool? I know there were some 3rd party cooling devices early on, but I hear they can actually make the problem worse and void your warranty.
Thanks a lot,
Evan
To be honest, we're not terribly familiar with Saints Row 2 but, after a little researched, we discovered that yours is apparently a common problem. More importantly, you're Xbox doesn't sound like it's part of the problem. Also, according to the Saints Row 2 community site, there is indeed a patch on the way. No specific date is given for the patch, but it sounds like it's already been submitted to Microsoft for certification. The patch includes a number of tweaks, including multiplayer changes, Achievement bug fixes and more. We imagine the fix you (and many others) will be most interested to see is this one:
"Implemented protection against disc read errors. May reduce or eliminate crashes experienced by some users."
So there you go, hopefully your Saints Row 2 problems will be alleviated in the near future. Hopefully.
As for keeping your Xbox 360 cool, the best advice we can give is to make sure it has plenty of ventilation. Make sure there is open space on all sides of your Xbox if possible. Yes, there are various cooling devices available, but we have no idea how effective they really are. We've heard some readers swear by cooling products (Nyko's Intercooler, for example) and we've reported other sources saying that such products can actually damage your console. We're not sure if using a cooling product will actually void your warranty, unless you have to crack open your Xbox to install it, in which case it definitely voids your warranty. One thing we can tell you: If your console breaks down and you do use a cooling device, you might not want to mention it to Microsoft.
Any word on if this game is still going to be coming out, or has it been quietly canned? We haven't heard much about it since April, last I remember.
We have heard anything regarding Faith and a .45, but we're going to guess that it was put on the backburner while developer Deadline Games focuses on Watchmen: The End is Nigh for Xbox Live Arcade. We've inquired about the status of Faith and a .45 with Deadline -- we were actually very intrigued when it was revealed in 2007 -- and we'll be sure to keep you up to date when we know more.
Dear X3F,
here's a bunch of questions, I hope I don't ask for too much stuff.
-I am using a VGA cable (playing on my computer monitor), which means Halo CE can not run for some unknown reason to me ... so my question is, how many games are unable to run just like HCE? is there a list (or could you make one?) of Xbox games that don't work with the VGA cable?
-Is Doom 2 planned to be released one day or the other as an XBLA game?
-Also ... is there a release date for the next Wolfenstein game? if not ... any estimation? do we know if there will be split screen coop?
-Could you please say whether the next Star Ocean game is a 360 exclusive or not? I have seen some other sites saying it's for both the PS3 and 360, and some other sites saying it's an Xbox exclusive, which makes me confused...
-And also ... I have heard things about the next Final Fantasy game being a 360 exclusive only in some part of the world (USA and Europe) while it is a PS3 exclusive only in Japan ... what gives?
-Lastly ... did any of you play the Ninja Blade demo? if yes ... what do you think? good/bad/could be better but needs work?
Thanks,
z0rgy.
1) Frankly, we've never heard of this problem. We did some quick research and, apparently, the PAL version of Halo is incompatible with the VGA cable (along with the PAL versions of a few other games). It seems that some PAL games output in 50Hz, while the VGA cable runs in 60Hz. Thus, if a PAL game supports 60Hz output, it should work with the VGA cable. You can find a complete list of backwards compatible games on Wikipedia here. All games with "Yes" under the 60Hz column should be compatible. Also, you might consider picking up a Component-to-VGA adapter, which should get rid of the problem entirely. Not the cheapest solution, but it might be your only option.
2) Ratings were spotted for both Final Doom and Ultimate Doom on the ESRB website about two years ago, so it's probably safe to say we'll see more Doom. Final Doom is an expansion of Doom II, so it would be a bit strange for it to arrive on XBLA by itself.
3) Expect Wolfenstein to hit sometime this year. It had better have co-op but, no, we haven't heard whether or not it will. It does have Nazis though, so that's a start.
4) Star Ocean's exclusivity has been a tricky subject for a while now. The best we can say is that Square Enix said in June 2008 that there are "no plans" for a PS3 version of the game. Anyone familiar with PR speak knows that "no plans" is not a definite no, so anything could happen.
5) Final Fantasy XIII is not being released on the Xbox 360 in most Asian territories, including Japan (but not Taiwan). That might eventually change, but for now it's exclusive to PS3 in Japan. The Xbox 360 isn't exactly the most popular console in Japan, so it's not all that surprising that Square Enix is more interested in bringing the game to western territories where it stands a better chance at success.
6) Nope.
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DBoyFlex @ Jan 6th 2009 6:17PM
When I had SR2, I had it installed and never had that problem, even after playing for hours. Maybe if you can squeeze the room, install it until they can patch it.
Also, I had the intercooler for a while on my original 360. It did help a lot. It was as loud as my motorcycle but kept from getting freezing errors. The original build had plastic connectors and a on off switch. They then released a new one that had metal connectors but no power switch, so it was always running. Since that time, they have altered the power adapter components on the xbox itself, so I do not know if they have updated the intercooler to go along with that. You would need to make sure it fit, but if I guess it doesn't, return it. Also, I have seen other fans that the xbox just sits in and runs on its own power. In that case, it would not matter the xbox revision as the outer case dimensions are all the same.
My newer 360 runs cooler, much cooler, and I have not used an external fan since getting it. Just about all of the falcons onwards should be fine. It is the previous generations that I would be concerned about. As always, adequate air flow is a must regardless. Kinda limits position, but I have lived with that.
offday @ Jan 6th 2009 8:35PM
Never played Saint's Row, but when I play COD World at War it sounds like my Xbox is working a lot harder than it usually does for other games. Anyone else notice this with world at war?
insomnioe @ Jan 7th 2009 12:59AM
I had Saints 2 installed the whole time I played it, and it never crashed on me. Try installing it.
Tony L @ Jan 7th 2009 10:09AM
@ offday:
I agree about CoD:World at War. It does seem like my disk drive is working much harder than usual.
Aaron @ Jan 6th 2009 6:33PM
For the last e-mail regarding Final Fantasy XIII, it is NOT an Xbox 360 exclusive in North America or Europe. The PS3 version is still coming out in NA and Europek, but, as it was stated, it is a PS3-exclusive in most of Asia.
So yeah, I thought X3F would've stated that, but it's all good!
bknight @ Jan 6th 2009 9:39PM
exclusive Only in Japan
Rest of asia eg Korea is getting the both versions
Deck @ Jan 6th 2009 7:36PM
Greats answers!
I totally forgot about Faith and a .45! From what I saw it seemed prettying good, so I am hoping that more information comes out about it.
Thanks for that reminder!
Muckrak3r @ Jan 6th 2009 7:44PM
I mean seriously, I wish you would quit answering the questions of people that ask like 7 questions. I get tired head reading all that crap.
Anyways, nice article, keep up the great work.
Matt Already Said That @ Jan 6th 2009 9:22PM
As for the guy with the cooling problem. I bought and recommend the NYKO Intercooler TS, as it has its OWN power supply and cools the system substantially. It's powerful and small, and it really does the job well. The only thing that might bother you is that it's LOUD, and it's kinda annoying - but I honestly only notice it after I shut off my system as it continues to cool it even after you shut down (another nice feature)
DBoyFlex @ Jan 6th 2009 9:50PM
Ah, and that would solve the many power supply interfaces problem. Seems good, it got good reviews on amazon, if anybody needs one, that is.
Boff @ Jan 7th 2009 4:44AM
I keep my 360 in a vat of liquid nitrogen. Job done.
You do have to be extra careful with the discs though....
NukeAssault @ Jan 6th 2009 11:03PM
Speaking of missing games... where the heck is The Crossing?
And i want Alan Wake this year Remedy! >o
glims @ Jan 7th 2009 3:40AM
Since this is an Ask X3F article, this is probably the best place to e-mail you guys stuff since I can't find your contact.
Did anyone else see the live video ad on the NXE? it happened about 20 minutes ago. I think it was with a Basketball Star wearing a powder blue jersey...
Boff @ Jan 7th 2009 4:45AM
xbox.joystiq.com/tips
glims @ Jan 7th 2009 3:41AM
obviously I don't read these things but the headlines since I just found that contact info I was looking for in this article... waa waa waaaa
mattclarkie @ Jan 7th 2009 5:12AM
I'm slightly suprised you haven't heard about coolers voiding the warranty.
The first cooler for the 360 actually used the 360s PSU for power, and would draw more power than the PSU was meant to provide, it actually caused burning to the casing of the console.
As for the VGA cable, most games for the Xbox work as they were nearly all 60hz, but just make sure it states 60hz.
imbecile pete @ Jan 7th 2009 11:46AM
DOOM 2 is coming to XBLA?
AWESOME!